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TA σχόλια της αμερικανικής διπλωματίας για την εκλογή Καραμανλή το 1974 όπως διέρρευσαν από τα Wikileaks
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1974 November 21, 17:55 (Thursday)
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Electronic Telegrams
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Greece Athens
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Declassified/Released US Department of State EO Systematic Review 30 JUN 2005
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Commander in Chief European Command Vaihingen Germany | Cyprus Nicosia | Defense Intelligence Agency | Department of State | Turkey Ankara
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DEPARTMENT PASS SECRETARY 1. THERE IS NO REPEAT NO DOUBT THAT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF U.S. AND WESTERN INTERESTS THE RESULTS OF THE NOVEMBER 17 GREEK ELECTION WERE EXTREMELY REASSURING. NOT ONLY WAS CARAMANLIS GIVEN THE STRONGEST MANDATE THAT ANY GREEK PRIME MINISTER HAS RECEIVED IN MODERN HISTORY, BUT THE VOTERS CLEARLY REJECTED THE RECKLESS PROGRAM FOR A «NON-ALIGNED» GREECE ADVOCATED BY ANDREAS PAPANDREOU AND THE QUIETER BUT NO LESS DANGEROUS ALTER- NATIVES PROPOSED BY THE GREEK COMMUNISTS.
THAT THE VOTERS WERE BOTH THOUGHTFUL AND SELECTIVE IS INDICATED IN THE OVERALL VERDICT AND, FOR THE MOST PART, IN THEIR CHOICE OF INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATES. AMONG WOMEN CANDIDATES SECRET SECRET PAGE 02 ATHENS 08360 211833Z
THEY PREFERRED THE INTELLIGENCE AND SERIOUS AMERICAN- TRAINED SOCIOLOGIST, VIRGINIA TSOUDEROUS TO THE FLASHY BUT ESSENTIALLY FRIVOLOUS CANDIDACY OF MELINA MERCOURI. AMONG RESISTANCE CANDIDATES THEY GAVE MORE VOTES TO THE RESPECTED IF SOMEWHAT ENIGMATIC ANASTASSIOS MINIS THEN TO THE WIDELY- KNOWN BUT ERRATIC ALEXANDER PANAGOULIS.
THE JUDICIOUS- NESS WITH WHICH THE GREEK VOTER CAST HIS BALLOT SHOULD PROVIDE THE COUNTRY NOT ONLY WITH AN EFFECTIVE GOVERN- MENT UNDER MODERATE LEADERSHIP BUT WITH AN EFFECTIVE AND, BY GREEK STANDARDS, RESPONSIBLE PARLIAMENTARY OPPOSITION. 2.
WE THEREFORE AGREE WITH THE PRINCIPAL CONCLUSIONS DRAWN BY INR IN THEIR PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT OF THE GREEK ELECTIONS CONTAINED IN REFTEL. WE WOULD, HOWEVER, SINGLE OUT THREE POINTS MADE BY INR WHICH SHOULD BE TREATED WITH CAUTION. 3. THE FIRST CONCERNS CARAMANLIS’ ATTITUDE TOWARD NATO. AS WE HAVE STATED IN PREVIOUS MESSAGES, CARAMANLIS IS WITHOUT QUESTION A MAN OF THE WEST WHO HARBORS NO ILLUSIONS THAT GREECE COULD BE EITHER NON-ALIGNED OR AN ALLY OF THE EASTERN EUROPEANS. THIS IS NOT TO SAY, HOWEVER, THAT HE IS IN A POSITION OR EVEN WISHES TO «REVERSE» THE LIMITED, THUS FAR LARGELY RHETORICAL WITHDRAWAL FROM NATO THAT GREECE HAS UNDERTAKEN UNDER HIS DIRECTION DURING THE PAST THREE MONTHS.
CERTAINLY HE HAS NEITHER THE WISH NOR THE CAPABILITY OF DOING SO UNTIL GREECE’S RELATIONS WITH TURKEY IMPROVE MATERIALLY, A PROCESS WHICH CANNOT BEGIN UNTIL A CYPRUS SETTLEMENT ACCEPTABLE TO GREECE HAS BEEN ACHIEVED, AND WILL NOT BE AUTOMATIC EVEN THEN. THE PRIME MINISTER’S ELECTORAL TRIUMPH MEANS THAT HE IS UNDER NO IMMEDIATE PRESSURE TO DISENGAGE GREECE FURTHER FROM NATO, BUT THE DAMAGE ALREADY DONE CANNOT BE REPAIRED UNTIL SOMETHING APPROACH- ING MUTUAL CONFIDENCE HAS BEEN RESTORED IN THE BILATERAL RELATIONS OF GREECE AND TURKEY. SHOULD BILATERAL RELA- TIONS DETERIORATE UNDER PRESSURES OF THE CYPRUS PROBLEM OR SOME OTHER ISSUE, THE ADVERSE EFFECT ON GREECE’S RLATIONS WITH NATO WOULD BE PROPORTIONATE.
4. AS FAR AS CYPRUS IS CONCERNED, WE BELIEVE THAT THE SECRET SECRET PAGE 03 ATHENS 08360 211833Z MAGNITUDE OF CARAMANLIS’ VICTORY HAS IMPLICATIONS WHICH CUT TWO WAYS.
IT IS TRUE THAT HE IS STRONG ENOUGH TO MAKE A SETTLEMENT ONCE CONVINCED THAT THE SETTLEMENT PROTECTS VITAL GREEK INTERESTS. IT IS EQUALLY TRUE THAT HE IS STRONG ENOUGH TO RESIST A SETTLE- MENT IF CONVINCED THAT IT DOES NOT. PRIOR TO THE ELECTIONS, AT THE TIME OF GENEVA II, WE BELIEVED THAT CARAMANLIS WAS ANXIOUS TO EFFECT A SPEEDY COMPROMISE AGREEMENT WITHIN FAIRLY LIBERAL PARAMETERS OF COMPROMISE.
AT THAT TIME HE COULD DEPICT GREEK CONCESSIONS AS PAYMENTS THAT HAD TO BE MADE FOR THE MISTAKES OF THE COLONELS. THAT SITUATION HAS NOW CHANGED. HE IS THE POPULARLY ELECTED LEADER OF GREECE, AND CYPRUS HAS BECOME HIS PRO- BLEM, NOT SIMPLY ONE HE INHERITED FROM THE JUNTA.
THIS MAY MAKE HIM LESS DISPOSED TO OFFER FURTHER CONCESSIONS THAN HE WAS PRIOR TO THE ELECTIONS, ALTHOUGH IT WILL NOT LESSEN HIS APPRECIATION OF THE DANGERS THE CYPRUS PRO- BLEM POSES FOR HIM POLITICALLY IF IT CONTINUES TO FESTER.
5. LASTLY, WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION TO SAY THAT THE GREEK ARMED FORCES ARE PROBABLY «HIGHLY SATISFIED» WITH CARAMANLIS’ DECISIVE VICTORY. WHILE WE ALSO DISCOUNT HEAVILY THE CONTINUED REPORTS WE ARE RECEIVING ABOUT RIGHT WING PLOTTING AND DISCONTENT IN THE HELLENIC ARMED FORCES, WE DO NOT THINK THAT THE MORALE OF THE GREEK MILITARY HAS YET RECOVERED FROM THE BUFFET- ING IT HAS RECEIVED IN RECENT MONTHS OR, AT A DEEPER LEVEL, FROM THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF SEVEN YEARS OF LEADERSHIP BY OFFICERS WHO VALUED POLITICAL RELIABILITY MORE THAN MILITARY COMPETENCE. IT WILL TAKE ALL OF THE SKILL OF CARAMANLIS AND AVEROFF TO REBUILD THE GREEK ARMED FORCES INTO THE PROFESSIONAL FIGHTING CORPS THEY ARE CAPABLE OF BEING. UNTIL THE PRIME MINISTER SUCCEEDS IN DOING THIS, IT WILL BE RISKY TO GENERALIZE ABOUT THEIR ATTITUDE. KUBISCH SECRET
Ο Πάσχος Μανδραβέλης αγανάκτησε με το νεοναζιστικό αφιέρωμα Τράγκα στην Χ.Α
Το σχόλιο του Πάσχου Μανδραβέλη για την εκπομπή του Τράγκα με την Χρυσή Αυγή:
Είναι ντροπή αυτό που έκανε ο #tragas Και για τον @skaigr, και για την τηλεόραση και για την δημοσιογραφία. Απλώς ντροπή… Φοβάμαι δε πως αυτό είναι απλώς η επιφάνεια. Μην δούμε τον συγκεκριμένο showman υποψήφιο της «Χρυσής Αυγής». Win-win game: Αυτός θα προσφέρει ψήφους κι εκείνοι βουλευτική ασυλία.
Αλλά πολύ σκούξιμο, ρε παιδάκι μου για τον #tragas. Δεν είναι ο κατ’ εξοχήν «αντιμνημονιακός»; Είναι άλλος ο καθημερινός #tragas στον @Real_gr άλλος o εβδομαδιαίος του @skaigr; Είναι άλλος ο #tragas της 6.4.2013 και άλλος ο της 23.3.2013; Δεν χαρακτηρίστηκε από κορυφαίο αντιμνημονιακό της αριστεράς «αντικειμενικός δημοσιογράφος»; Ή είναι αντικειμενικός μόνο όταν αποκαλεί την Μέρκελ «Ναζί» και παύει να είναι αντικειμενικός όταν αποκαλεί τον Κασιδιάρη «δημοκράτη»; Ουδείς κατανοεί ότι αυτά τα δύο είναι οι όψεις του ίδιου νομίσματος;
Δεν μπορούμε να δούμε ότι ο λαϊκισμός είναι ο επωαστήρας του αυγού του φιδιού; Ότι τις καρέκλες που κάθονται οι φασίστες άλλοι τις ζεσταίνουν πρώτα; Ότι ο «δρόμος προς τον φασισμό είναι στρωμένος με καλές κραυγές»; Ότι ο φασισμός είναι λαϊκισμός με μπράτσα ή/και με όπλα; Ή απλώς δεν πειράζει που το γινάτι βγάζει μάτι;
ΥΓ: Δεν είμαι εργαζόμενος στον @skaigr, δεν είμαι διευθυντής του, δεν του έδωσα τηλεοπτική εκπομπή, δεν του έδωσα καθημερινό μικρόφωνο στο ραδιόφωνο. Ούτε στην εκπομπή του βγαίνω. Αει σιχτίρ πια με τον υποκριτικό αντιναζισμό…
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